Here’s what we explored:

  • we share an understanding that how we feel is not a reliable indicator of who we are, it’s just how we feel in that moment
  • they come and go
  • experiment and see for yourself if this is true
  • it is not ‘feel the fear and do it anyway’
  • it comes from a real knowing there is something beyond our feeling state
  • some collapse into emotions others vigorously suppress them
  • this is not over-riding or avoiding emotions, it is about tuning in to something deeper
  • ‘Thought screams; wisdom whispers’, Debbie Trent
  • wanting to feel peaceful all the time is a trap
  • do you interpret feelings like anxiety as a sign of problems (in your life)?
  • what if they are just emotions moving through you?
  • what if we don’t need to analyse or judge our feelings so much?
  • everyone is looking for peace of mind, ease, connection, right?
  • are we looking in the wrong place, looking in our emotions, when there is something beyond them?
  • a sense of ‘all shall be well’ is when everything relaxes: time and space disappear and our emotions too?
  • people love clouds, people flock to watch the sunsets
  • sunsets without clouds are not that interesting
  • storm clouds make for extraordinary sunsets
  • our emotions are like clouds
  • when we don’t over-identify with our emotions and simply let them be, move through us, they can become incredibly rich experiences, like grief for example
  • being wholeheartedly in the experience without paying so much attention to the accompanying commentary or story
  • the sun illuminates the clouds even on the darkest day
  • It’s like the sun represents consciousness, that which lights up all our emotions, allows us to feel them,
  • Juliet says she would have made a fabulous opera diva if only she could sing
  • her experience was full of drama, everything felt intense, she invested her emotions with maximum importance. Carla too!
  • not making those feelings WHO I am
  • an emotion in and of itself is neither good nor bad
  • we can see that because some people seek out and pay for intense sensations e.g. going bungy jumping to feel fear
  • other fear eg anxiety
  • it’s fascinating to realise the impact of our naming of feelings and the meaning we put on them
  • one person can interpret tingling as excitement; another as fear
  • a little bit of stress can give you a little pep
  • in any given moment, the possibility for what we can experience, is infinite
  • know that the mind can change
  • whatever you think or feel in this moment: KNOW it is going to change
  • whether you pop out quickly or hang out in it for weeks, at some point it changes
  • if we didn’t care HOW we felt, what would that be like?
  • the psychological system is always seeking equilibrium
  • if a pond is churned up and you’ve lost something in there, the thing to do is go sit on the bank and wait for the water to settle
  • give ourselves a little tender loving care, attend to ourselves gently
  • stop stirring up the pond, sit on the bank of yourself in wonder
  • we touch moments when we are unself-conscious
  • in those moments gratitude, compassion, gentleness flow more naturally
  • so easy to overlook the quiet moments
  • when we take our emotions a little less personally we can more fully experience them
  • if we paid less attention to our stories about how we feel we would be free to simply experience them in glorious technicolor

Quotes and References

  • ‘Thoughts scream; wisdom whispers’, Debbie Trent
  • ‘All shall be well, all shall be well, all manner of things shall be well’ Julian of Norwich
  • Pema Chödrön – books and videos
  • A Beautiful Mind is a 2001 American biographical drama film based on the life of the American mathematician John Nash, a Nobel Laureate in Economics and Abel Prize winner. The film was directed by Ron Howard, from a screenplay written by Akiva Goldsman. Starring Russell Crowe, Jennifer Connelly, and Ed Harris.

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